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Excellent analysis and comparison
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May 11 2007, 12:33 PM EDT by
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Ash,
I finally read this article of yours, and the comparison with soccer/football rules co-existing peacefully within the context of national law is a great example. I usually give a different example, like an association or a club having their own code of conduct inside their club HQ. An example: while national law protects the freedom of expression, a club can forbid members to write on the walls — and both things co-exist, since the freedom of expression is not "removed" arbitrarily just because someone joins a club. But the soccer analogy is far easier to understand :)
Just a slight note: Linden Lab always called private islands, or, more precisely, <i>sets</i> of private islands, "estates". Their idea was that from the Estate menu option you could set/control <i>all</i> your islands as a whole (ie. for banning; or having the same setting for the sun in the whole estate; or even sending messages to all users on all islands inside the estate), as well as some "fine-tuning" on individual islands. LL tends to use both terms interchangeably, since, by default, when someone buys their first private island, both the island and an estate with that island are created. Sometimes LL "forgets" to add further islands to the *same* estate.
I don't read LL's words as implying that the mainland will <i>not</i> have access to the new "governance tools", although that might happen (LL has the strangest ideas sometimes!). In effect, I believe that "Governor Linden", the "enforcer" of the mainland (which is also an "estate"), will very likely want to use those "governance tools" as well (thus allowing LL to place the burden of running the "Mainland Estate" in the hands of an employee without the need of "God mode"). But it's soon to know for sure what LL is planning there...
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Vulcano is hosting the second tools meeting
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May 4 2007, 4:33 PM EDT by
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As also detailed on <a href="https://secure-web3.secondlife.com/events/event.php?id=573199&date=1178479800">the Second Life Events' page</a> I am glad to be able and host the meeting in the Auditorium on Vulcano. See you all there!
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May 4 2007, 4:33 PM EDT
:) Mondrian, the address is in the event listing which I have included in the previous post:
Event listing: https://secure-web3.secondlife.com/events/event.php?id=573199&date=1178479800
Address (also quoted in event listing): http://slurl.com/secondlife/Vulcano/119/89
Please note that these addresses are not clickable in this wiki (sorry, too lazy to look up the syntax, hmm, let's try the regular wiki one: [http://slurl.com/secondlife/Vulcano/119/89]) so you might have to copy and paste them in the address bar of your browser.
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Thanks!
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May 3 2007, 1:23 PM EDT by
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I got back from a week "out of the world" (or in another world, depending on the point of you) and as I got home I was looking for a good source to getting to know more about this new Linden Labs idea. Enligthening :)
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May 2 2007, 8:30 AM EDT by
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One thing that I'd add to the above description of the difference in the approach to statutes is this: in civil law systems, statutes set the general principles of the law expressly by stating them; the courts then make their own interpretations of those general principles afresh in each case to arrive at conclusions about how those general principles translate into details.
In common law systems, the approach is the opposite: the legislation sets the details, from which the general principles emerge, much like a computer programme. The idea is that those who are making the statutes, rather than the courts, should be the ones who have the power to decide how the details work.
The civil law can thus be described as a top-down approach to principles, whereas the common law can be described as a bottom up approach. Both systems *value* principles equally, but arrive at them, and deal with the interface between principle and detail, in very different ways.
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Excellent
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May 2 2007, 8:26 AM EDT by
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Very helpful, Kirsty, thank you :-)
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Great Post
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Apr 25 2007, 5:54 PM EDT by
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This nicely breaks down the impact of the change on local government, and -- I think correctly -- hints at the tools that a group like this might be able to package as a "government" franchise and sell, give away, or whatever. The change in the nature of abuse reporting is significant, and I'm surprised how many people are overlooking it. As is traditional, I take a less academic view of the change <a href="http://virtuallyblind.com/2007/04/25/linden-lab-takes-big-step-toward-private-legal-systems-and-governments-in-second-life/">over at Virtually Blind</a>, but if you're reading this you may want to read the post there as well, if for no other reason than to see what I expect will ultimately reflect the widespread response from attorney participants in SL.
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Apr 25 2007, 5:54 PM EDT
Thank you, Ben: I have noticed the response on your 'blog: that was partly what prompted me to write this in the first place. It is indeed interesting to see the different responses. The main point about the discussion on parallelism is to demonstrate that proper local government tools for all SecondLife/the grid is not in the least incompatible with Linden Lab's vision for the mainland/private estates split that underlies this new system.
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Apr 16 2007, 10:57 AM EDT by
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This entry was written by Ashcroft Burnham and copied from talksecondlife: http://www.talksecondlife.com/second-life-law/970-governance-tools-proposals-second-draft.html
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